biohazard823
03-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Over the past few months I have become very intesested in EDF Jet planes and the hobby of model planes in general. I have been doing a lot of research on these planes and looking at awsome looking models of F-16s and F-18s and F-22s on RCWarbirds.com and Hiendrc.com. I have also seen them on other sites but i forget their url right now. These planes with their awsome detail and appearance have really captured my attention and I would love to own and fly one by this summer. I was hoping someone on this site has owned or does own one of these planes I'm talking about. If anyone could help me out on what I will need to purchase, what EDF Jets are the best, what motors, esc, servos, radio, etc. would be the best for what i would like to do you would be a great help to me. My final goal would be to have one of these planes like the F-22, and have a nice setup to fly this plane, and hopefully other planes like this with single or dual engines and retracts for landing and takeoff gear. Hopefully this is enough of an insite of what i would like to acheive. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks a lot,
-Ben.
ThumbSkull
03-02-2008, 04:45 PM
Welcome Ben.
EDF jets are best not to learn to fly on. Frustration and disappointment will come trying to learn on fast EDF's.
That IS a great goal to work towards though. Start with something slow flying till you get the hang of the controls.
A slow stick or the likes is a good starter. When it's time to go faster tehn something like the wings at http://www.speedwing.net would be a good way to get used to elevons and speed with a durable model.
That's where I'm at in this hobby and getting ready to build an EDF. Not sure which one yet though.
Have fun.
Mike
rcshirt
03-06-2008, 04:30 PM
JETS...
the newer models F-22, f-15 are better flyers than the eary jets f-86, f-100 etc.
Any edf needs to be as powerfull as you can afford. Brushless if you want a good flyer. Brushed motors will usually fly them but not great. The su-27 w twins will fly on brushe but the brushless would be better. Single fan is just as good and has less drain on batt.
Now the Gws A-10 gets lots of flack but is a great flyer. ITs NOT FAST its a park flyer. when hopped up is better.
Also the biggest problems with DF is you have to know almost all the tricks to get the most from them. thats why so many whent turbine. MORE POWER and reliable engines.
I have a turbine waiver but few DF for many yrs and am building an IC arf Bash and Just Got a EDF F-20 that will need a hole set up.
MAn i need to get back to the workshop:inlove02:
the falcon is getting a byron fan .81 df
Cpt.Typhoon
03-16-2008, 07:02 AM
Welcome to EDF Ben !
As you did mention you interest for the F/A-18 Hornet, I got my from KMP.
You could also have info with those follow websites distributors, and Bob at (EJF) is a great man to speak to in order to have all info about that kit doing and how it fly, as he also did ask Mr.Kevin Cox to build one in a thread here a while a go:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551569 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551569)
For my part, I would like to do my Hornet as single ENG/Fan for power plant system. Many have done it with a single 90mm fan unit, some did it with twin 70mm fans unit, and I would like to do my with a single 120mm fan unit. I hear that it will be a challenge to fit the 120mm in this fuselage, but I will sure give it a try, as I would like my F/A-18 Hornet to have some scale flying while airborn. I dont like to keep a jet at fullboard for power to keep it in the air. I like my jet to be flying at 50% power to enjoy it at is best. I also will apply some sort of glass covering on all this jet surface, to make the fuselage stronger and also some inside carbon fiber to re-inforce some specific weak area on that BigFoamy jet. Will probably also do gear on that project (its a most). It will had some weight but I'm ready the face this fact to get a scale Hornet with a long lasting life at the end. Good luck in your jet search. Have you consider ARF?
KMP
http://www.kmp.ca/product_info.php?c...b2fa5cb56b29aa (http://www.kmp.ca/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=134&osCsid=249682b7a22000368cb2fa5cb56b29aa)
ParkPilots
http://www.parkpilots.com/f18.html (http://www.parkpilots.com/f18.html)
EJF
http://www.ejf.com/index.php?main_pa...ducts _id=217 (http://www.ejf.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=69&products_id=217)
X-Flight
http://www.x-flight.hk/e/products/pr...?ic=XFP-DF-F18 (http://www.x-flight.hk/e/products/productdetails.asp?ic=XFP-DF-F18)
Ducted Fans.com
http://www.ductedfans.com/jets_electric_Foam.html (http://www.ductedfans.com/jets_electric_Foam.html)
biohazard823
03-16-2008, 09:44 AM
thats a lot for the help and the info capt.!
Cpt.Typhoon
03-16-2008, 10:44 AM
thats a lot for the help and the info capt.!
Your welcome buddy!
If you are into airliner and would like a big scale A-380 after learn a fiew solo and crash experiences, you could have look at that one also. It is easyer to fly this A-380 then any fighter jet for a start. Even if it is a big Foamy, it fly like a dream. I still have'nt decide if I will purchase that one yiet, as I would have to figure the retractable gears befort any going fowards on that project. But it is a sure ball to see airborn with all those lights and gears down on final approach ILS. Mr.MING from Hong-Kong as design the A-380 call by his (Airliner A-388) and the compagny is name WindRider in Hong-Kong. It as been design to be a glidersloap, but can be converted as EDF with 55mm fans units of that size. So if your in for a full scale details airliner, that one is a sure one to go for and for the price it is a real deal to own sutch a big airliner. As Mr.MING try to do his kits as low price as possible for us, he even got some other interesting models if the airline does'nt please you. Check out the compagny website and dont be affraid to ask him your questions. He is a great gentelman in all.
http://www.windrider.com.hk/ (http://www.windrider.com.hk/)
The A-380 from WindRider design. It is a 6fts wings long A-380 and it as been design as a glider slope but can be converted as EDF.
I guess this A-380 will be order from Mr.MING the designer in Hong-Kong. I'll make that one near scale also (If I purchase), if all the right elements are in my favor to be done that way. But it sure look that it will be near scale when I'm over with the build of that wonderfull airliner. From what I have been reading, it is a very easy airliner to fly and build, and from what other owner are saying.
I will cover the hole airline with glassing to make it stronger and will also re-inforce some weak parts with dowell in some area. It should be a great flyer when done right and will also do landing gears. I will need to figure the best way to make my gears scale with door also. Nav lights and strobe are on my agenda, and for the flaps, well I did read that it is not a urgent use to be having them as add-on element.
As the A-380 glide,glide,and glide, so I think I will not put them on for weight values issues, but again that could change later if I need the need for details. And for the canopy of this airliner, well it is pretty small area to work in, but I will sure have a look if any design can be done as canopy matter in that big airliner. It would sure give a plus to this kit if I go with the canopy build for sclae lovers to see.
Links to thread build of A-380 EDF, enjoy!
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=473050 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=473050)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326061 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326061)