This a very cheap glider available at towerhobbies or any local hobby shop. Retail is <$9 :)

the conversion only took about 2hrs and most of that was painting the blucor nacelles


All I did was cut the dummy motors off the wings and sanded it smooth.

then I attached the H-stab to a piece of blucore (with a cf rod inbetween the two for support). Then I put it on top as a t tail

I haven't finished painting the rest but I have a nice color sceme planned.


Power is twin 4100 kv motors in edf55 housings
elevator the servo is actuall under the elevator :D
rudder
flaperons are in the future, but on my twin bp21 version they don't do enough

flies great!
will fly/climb at 1/3 throttle

full throttle is only needed for take off :)

Pretty niffty conversion, that kind of thing is always fun. Curious, are you flying it on elevator and rudder or directional thrust? Its not to clear.

John:)

it uses rudder and elevator

the elevator is on the top of the t-tail and the servo is up there to

I have another version that is powered by two bp21s, flaperons,rudder, and elevator. I like the edf version better....flaperons are cool but the rudder does more for steering than the ailerons

I crashed the edf a few days ago.....I will rebuild it but have to order some lifefoam gliders from tower...........I have a prop version that is much better (doesn't hog amps like the edf)

here's a pic of the prop version...I installed ailerons as well

Sweet!

One great thing about this hobby is that there are so many different ways you can go about it.

Thanks!


And you can learn SO much by trial and error! :)

That prop job airliner looks cool Dark! :)

PS, I flew the Slow Stick with the 2410-12 on three cells swinging a 10X8 GWS orange. Superb performance! :)

Thanks

the ailerons, and flaps make it really fun!

Thanks!


And you can learn SO much by trial and error! :)

And you can crash alot and keep building! Well, some of us do:D Hermit

Yep...one of the best teachers is pain,and it hurts so much to see a beauty in pieces :D

Yep...one of the best teachers is pain,and it hurts so much to see a beauty in pieces :D

I'm not that upset when a foamy or a quick build goes in, usually pilot error and just mad at myself. I did have a nice foamie just explode for no known reason the other day. Was an instant RC, full control stunt, 3d whatever and I was looping, rolling, doing a flat flight and wings folded and both ends of fuse folderd and fell to the ground:eek:.
It's them scratch builts, all balsa that take all year and have nothing bigger than a rudder left and you need a backhoe to find the engine. That's harder. Hermit

Ahhh! feel youse pain! :D

All kidding aside, it bugs me to dork anything in or see one dorked. I'd hate to see my Blu-F-O go in. Hopefully it will never happen, and it only took me ten hours and $5 to put it together. :p

Got the stuff today Paul. Impressed with that prop adapter and gold colored F/W mount. Nice red 10X4.7 props too. :)

Ahhh! feel youse pain! :D

All kidding aside, it bugs me to dork anything in or see one dorked. I'd hate to see my Blu-F-O go in. Hopefully it will never happen, and it only took me ten hours and $5 to put it together. :p

Got the stuff today Paul. Impressed with that prop adapter and gold colored F/W mount. Nice red 10X4.7 props too. :)

Cute plane. I still got to do the lady bug. Itching for some GWS warbirds bad. Like to do cargotrans quad. I have a couple of those adapters too, very nice. The red props are slick, Sometimes in the 4' hay all I can see is a orange or red prop. Hit throttle hear a buzz or an esc beep helps sometimes. Oh well, dorking them is part of it. I been thru 4 bundles of foam so far, well had 4 got over half left but having a blast. Copy the plans off RCU foamie plan stickie and tile, tape and go for it. I got 6 foamies or more ready for maidens:rolleyes: Or is that death marches. I have good luck with my Squirt 400 though, darn tough and good flyer. Of course S400 went byebye and 2408-21 in there with a red 8040. Now can't wait till my TM gets here, gonna sleep by the mailbox for next 8 days. Hermit

First two photos of my 2408-21 converted GWS Zero.

Came in at exactly 15.2 ounces ready to take to the skies with a 2A two cell Li-Po! :)

First two photos of my 2408-21 converted GWS Zero.

Came in at exactly 15.2 ounces ready to take to the skies with a 2A two cell Li-Po! :)

I'm going to have one of those soon:D Soon as I can scratch some more bucks! Hermit

I'm gonna pick up some more gliders soon. ELE makes some higher KV motors that I'm gonna give a try in an EDF setup. As I mentioned on other threads the TP2030's can't handle 3 cell lipos, and I'm really disappointed with the excessive heat

Sorry to hear that about the TP2030. :o

I'm just glad no one bought them....I have a pretty good disclaimer on the product listing :)

I'm just glad no one bought them....I have a pretty good disclaimer on the product listing :)What size prop were you using with it?:confused:

BTW, love that 2410-08 on two cells with a 10X4.7 on the Slow Stick. Nice, really nice!:)

I tried just about every kind of prop, or setup:
GB 6:1
props from 5"-10" and got a lot of heat no matter what

EDF55 setup 23A 200watts! but too much heat

I did test the twin BP21 conversion: 5" props yield roughly: 14A and 120 watts :)

I tried just about every kind of prop, or setup:
GB 6:1
props from 5"-10" and got a lot of heat no matter what

EDF55 setup 23A 200watts! but too much heat

I did test the twin BP21 conversion: 5" props yield roughly: 14A and 120 watts :)Way too much heat!:o

Just got back from the flying field. Opened the gate shortly before 7 am and left at 20 past 6 PM!:D

Everyone there very impressed with the Slow Stick and the 2410-08 swinging a 10X4.7 propeller on two cell Li-Pos. Lovely combination.

Took the GWS out for a spin with the 2408-21 on two cells spinning a red 8X4. Everyone was rather impressed with its performance. I was doing mock combat with a GWS Corsair on a 9.6V NiCad pack with the same motor and a 9X4.7 propeller. The Zero was having a field day with the Corsair I am saddened to say.:rolleyes:

You should be getting a few calls as I passed your url around!:cool:

Thanks Q!

Clarification:

Failed to mention which GWS model I had mock combat with earlier today at the field. It was my Zero.

Thanks Q!


As Q plugged for Darkside I am also saying. If you haven't dealt with him, try it:). I have been extremely pleased in every single aspect of dealing with Paul. I was paying 30% more for 15A ESC's, and thinking I was doing good! until Q turned me on to Paul. Try him. Couple things order alot and like? The heavy duty and even the reg 8040 props. I especially like the BP21 and 15A motor/esc combo and price, they work excellent too!:eek: Hermit

awe shucks! Thanks Hermit!

awe shucks! Thanks Hermit!

Eyup. You do good, you deserve the recognition and plugs. Hermit

Eyup. You do good, you deserve the recognition and plugs. HermitI agree!:p

Thanks Guys!

I'm really hoping the Jappa heli line takes off!

Thanks Guys!

I'm really hoping the Jappa heli line takes off!

Are they micros? CP 6 ch? I find the CP hummingbird and Blade CP most popular especially humingbird as parts are cheaper, already lipo and has aerobatic setup already. Blade does not but both are very popular. Me? I want a Trex:cool: Can I afford one:mad: Interested in a Jappa:rolleyes: Possibly, I want everything:eek: Hermit

The Cyclone AlphaX is half way between a trex and a bladeCP....it is a sweet flying heli! It comes 80% assembled..takes about an hour to put together...for the $279 you get the airframe,motor, and esc! I've been flying mine with: 3 sg90s, sg50 (tail), gy240, dynam 6ch receiver, 220020C lipo
I bought mine prior to obtaining the dealership, so I opted out of the ESC. I am using a TP30AG2 with a TP3AUBEC at 6volts :)

If that is too small you'll want the new 450 series by Jappa....price will be around $350-370 with motor and ESC! They are still putting the finishing touches....so it is not quite ready

The Cyclone AlphaX is half way between a trex and a bladeCP....it is a sweet flying heli! It comes 80% assembled..takes about an hour to put together...for the $279 you get the airframe,motor, and esc! I've been flying mine with: 3 sg90s, sg50 (tail), gy240, dynam 6ch receiver, 220020C lipo
I bought mine prior to obtaining the dealership, so I opted out of the ESC. I am using a TP30AG2 with a TP3AUBEC at 6volts :)

If that is too small you'll want the new 450 series by Jappa....price will be around $350-370 with motor and ESC! They are still putting the finishing touches....so it is not quite ready

Need a decent 6ch air/heli Tx? Looking at a JR had both yesterday. What's parts acailability and price gona be? These in any mags yet? Can't find any. On the RCG heli forum? Hermit

parts availability is good. Basically takes 10 days to get the bling parts, but shogun parts fit....I had to use a shogun spindle/feathering shaft cause' I dorked mine :)

I would by a futaba tx....cause' I'm partial :) also the Dynam 5/6ch receivers work perfect for this heli......I'm using a 6ch cause' I need the extra slot for the external TP3AUBEC. Call me :)

parts availability is good. Basically takes 10 days to get the bling parts, but shogun parts fit....I had to use a shogun spindle/feathering shaft cause' I dorked mine :)

I would by a futaba tx....cause' I'm partial :) also the Dynam 5/6ch receivers work perfect for this heli......I'm using a 6ch cause' I need the extra slot for the external TP3AUBEC. Call me :)

I like tha fact Fut 7c has a $30 rebate right now. Reason I am thinking JR is Pos shift for more crowded areas. I have 10 Futaba transmitters, 6 complete with rx, servos and 3 just tx, I like Fut too:D Hermit

I have owned both Futaba 8 "Super" and JR 8103 radios.

I now own Futaba and Hitec exclusively. Need I say more? :D

I took the bp21 power plant and threw it in the DC3 a customer gave me.....flies like a dream!

I have owned both Futaba 8 "Super" and JR 8103 radios.

I now own Futaba and Hitec exclusively. Need I say more? :D

What didn't you like about the JR? Hermit

What didn't you like about the JR? HermitToo glitchy with e-planes (RXs are single conversion). It is something I have never had a problem with when using Futaba and Hitec.:o

I tried three different JR radios at the LHS to see if I could find one that did not "twitch". No dice, I left them all there and came home with a Futaba 8 "Super" set. Been so happy with it, that I bought me a second one.:)

Too glitchy with e-planes (RXs are single conversion). It is something I have never had a problem with when using Futaba and Hitec.:o

I tried three different JR radios at the LHS to see if I could find one that did not "twitch". No dice, I left them all there and came home with a Futaba 8 "Super" set. Been so happy with it, that I bought me a second one.:)

Interesting. JR is so praised. Hell, got 10 futabas now may as well stick with what works. My Hitec is fine too. Hermit

Interesting. JR is so praised. Hell, got 10 futabas now may as well stick with what works. My Hitec is fine too. HermitI know, I know.

That doesn't take away from the fact that others are better. The Multiplex name comes to mind as one such.:)

I know, I know.

That doesn't take away from the fact that others are better. The Multiplex name comes to mind as one such.:)

It's just grapevine from HS owner but he had persons with glitch probs and switching to Pos shift with JR solved it for him. Possibly is also because he just sells JR and Spectrum:eek:

It's just grapevine from HS owner but he had persons with glitch probs and switching to Pos shift with JR solved it for him. Possibly is also because he just sells JR and Spectrum:eek:More likely than not.:o

I have seen many a 30% model flown under the control of a 10X bite the dust. Too many, too often. Having had the issues I had with mine steered me away from that brand.:o

I don't think Positive or Negative shift is the issue when it comes to "glitching". In my case it did it at home, at the field and several of them, brand new and out of the box did it at the LHS. The guys flying the bigie gassers are no beginners either and their installations were flawlessly executed. PCM did not provent their models from bitting the dust.:o

Anyway, I am happy with Futaba and Hitec and that's what counts.;)

More likely than not.:o

I have seen many a 30% model flown under the control of a 10X bite the dust. Too many, too often. Having had the issues I had with mine steered me away from that brand.:o

I don't think Positive or Negative shift is the issue when it comes to "glitching". In my case it did it at home, at the field and several of them, brand new and out of the box did it at the LHS. The guys flying the bigie gassers are no beginners either and their installations were flawlessly executed. PCM did not provent their models from bitting the dust.:o

Anyway, I am happy with Futaba and Hitec and that's what counts.;)

Q,, You make good points here. I also don't think PCM is what they taunt it to be. I got a feeling it is HS owner / salesman "pitch" reying to push JR. I'll stick with Fut also. Futaba has never let me down and I been using them since 1986. I'm flying several right now with very exensive nitros that are gold stickered 91-92 and work excellent. :)Hermit

I'll second your nitro fetish! Those are some nice planes you have hangin' up!

I'll second your nitro fetish! Those are some nice planes you have hangin' up!

Thank you. Flew the Decathlon under a car last nite but minor damage, gonna fix now:rolleyes: Brainfarted the rudder/tailwheel. Hermit

Q,, You make good points here. I also don't think PCM is what they taunt it to be. I got a feeling it is HS owner / salesman "pitch" reying to push JR. I'll stick with Fut also. Futaba has never let me down and I been using them since 1986. I'm flying several right now with very exensive nitros that are gold stickered 91-92 and work excellent. :)HermitPurchased my first Futaba radio back in '73. It was a 6 channel affair in a brown case. Peculiar looking top and bottom, though. Angled so that the antenna pointed almost vertically when the TX was held in the normal position we use them.;)

I have both PPM and PCM. Can't tell the difference (if any) between them.:confused:

Sold my original 6 channel Futaba with my 9' wingspan Bud Nosen J-3 back in '82. It was still working like a champ. Never let me down.:)

Purchased my first Futaba radio back in '73. It was a 6 channel affair in a brown case. Peculiar looking top and bottom, though. Angled so that the antenna pointed almost vertically when the TX was held in the normal position we use them.;)

I have both PPM and PCM. Can't tell the difference (if any) between them.:confused:

Sold my original 6 channel Futaba with my 9' wingspan Bud Nosen J-3 back in '82. It was still working like a champ. Never let me down.:)

My first "modern" radios were 1986. Both futaba, never a problem ever. Before that, like in the 60's I had a pulse jobber. Had a button. 1 push or 2 pushes for rudder right or left:p Worked though:D Hermit

My first "modern" radios were 1986. Both futaba, never a problem ever. Before that, like in the 60's I had a pulse jobber. Had a button. 1 push or 2 pushes for rudder right or left:p Worked though:D HermitI did too. Looked like a small transistor radio with a button on its side. One click gave me full right rudder, two would give me full left.:D

I guess that's the reason I like the Aero Ace so much. It reminds me of those days of basic radios.;)

I did too. Looked like a small transistor radio with a button on its side. One click gave me full right rudder, two would give me full left.:D

I guess that's the reason I like the Aero Ace so much. It reminds me of those days of basic radios.;)

This had the button on the front. 6" high, 4" wide, 2" deep. Think it had a jeweled case on front black sides. Was on a popular highwing trainer of the time, cox .020 on it, maybe 30" span. May have even been a Kraft but not sure, was about that era. I know the fut your talking bout with the antenna vertical when radio is in fly position. I also have an old "expert" brand radio, steel case, tan sort of color reminds me of that and the old krafts. Neeeds TX batt but was a bear to get to. I replaced TX abd RX batts in the other 5 old sets I had. Not that difficult. Tore out the "tabs" and soldered in the 9V style caps but some used the little almost square white plug. All work great:D Hermit

I took the bp21 power plant and threw it in the DC3 a customer gave me.....flies like a dream!

Dark. What is included with that SS combo you have advertised? 24-12? 24-08? TP15? Nice add on the hangout site here. Hermit

My push button radio was an OS "MAX" Pixie single channel affair.:p

PS, I am using a Tower Pro 2410-08 in conjunction with the Tower Pro 15A Gen 2 ESC spinning an 11X4.7 GWS orange prop on my Slow Stick. Static draw on two cells is 8.2A while delivering 62W. Voltage remains around 7.2V under load. Flies like a dream. Just peachy!:D

hehe

I'll be trying a ELE900 for my next edf here are specs what do you think?
KV: 4600 RPM/V
Dimension: 20x40 mm
Shaft Dia: 2.0mm
Weight: 57 g
Voltage: 6-12V
Idle Current: 1.0A
Max Current: 23A/60S
Resistance: 0.05ohm

Should be a humdinger!:D

I heard it gives good thrust,but another guy said he was getting high temps....I'm gonna wait and see what kind of amp/watt draw he is getting on 3S

My push button radio was an OS "MAX" Pixie single channel affair.:p

PS, I am using a Tower Pro 2410-08 in conjunction with the Tower Pro 15A Gen 2 ESC spinning an 11X4.7 GWS orange prop on my Slow Stick. Static draw on two cells is 8.2A while delivering 62W. Voltage remains around 7.2V under load. Flies like a dream. Just peachy!:D

Hmmm. Somehow Pixie rings a bell. Of course now I wish I still had it. Not to fly but as a antique!
Thanks for the info on SS. Hot and humid and gridlock with tourists who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. No 120mile ride to HS today for a SS sloper but soon. My TN is here though:D Hermit

hehe

I'll be trying a ELE900 for my next edf here are specs what do you think?
KV: 4600 RPM/V
Dimension: 20x40 mm
Shaft Dia: 2.0mm
Weight: 57 g
Voltage: 6-12V
Idle Current: 1.0A
Max Current: 23A/60S
Resistance: 0.05ohm


I think if you show it to the right people they may do a remake of "bat out of hell".. I have a small EDF, slightly lacking in the boost dept, your's should be great. What's your SS combo on the site consist of? Qban gave me his secret formula, yours the same? Thanks, Hermit

I think if you show it to the right people they may do a remake of "bat out of hell".. I have a small EDF, slightly lacking in the boost dept, your's should be great. What's your SS combo on the site consist of? Qban gave me his secret formula, yours the same? Thanks, Hermit I threw my Pixie away two years ago. I had left the Alkaline cells in it. YEP! You get the idea as to what the TX looked like inside. All white and dusty!:eek:

PS, The Slow Stick flies great on the 2410-12 and 15A ESC spinning either an 11X8, 12X6 or a 13X6.5 GWS orange propellers on two cells. It flies great with the 12X6 on three cells, but climbs way out of sight too quickly.:eek:

It's really amazing how versatile that old Slow Stick is. Even more amazing how compatible the 2420-12 motor is with that many prop sizes on a two cell pack!:D

Yup that package is the 2410-12/15A esc w/all connectors included for $37 :)

no prop, but I figure the stock prop is a good match (might change it to $38 w/1047 prop :) )

I threw my Pixie away two years ago. I had left the Alkaline cells in it. YEP! You get the idea as to what the TX looked like inside. All white and dusty!:eek:

PS, The Slow Stick flies great on the 2410-12 and 15A ESC spinning either an 11X8, 12X6 or a 13X6.5 GWS orange propellers on two cells. It flies great with the 12X6 on three cells, but climbs way out of sight too quickly.:eek:

It's really amazing how versatile that old Slow Stick is. Even more amazing how compatible the 2420-12 motor is with that many prop sizes on a two cell pack!:D

That sounds fun. I have plenty of 12's too, SS soon as I am a poor man and still saving my pennies for the slope version. Them are big ass props! The IPS moror sure looks small. It turn that prop and fly like that:eek:

Yup that package is the 2410-12/15A esc w/all connectors included for $37 :)

no prop, but I figure the stock prop is a good match (might change it to $38 w/1047 prop :) )

Cool. Sounds like good combo. Hermit